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Malone
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Obama versus Clinton
Who do you think will win the elections?
I did not read many trustworthy articles about Obama - but under usual reserve I would be glad if he'll becomes president. Maybe the Americans here can tell us more
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| 06.01.2008 23:57 |
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Rowan
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
I'm a libertarian, though out of the republicans I'd like to see Ron Paul or Rudy chosen as a candidate.
As for the Democrats, they both seem pretty radical this time round. The front runners are also both minorities in politics. Obama seems to be more "progressive" then radical like Clinton, he seems like a nice choice.
It also might help the republicans if he was chosen. I just can't see American voters elected a black president with a terroristy sounding name with the middle name "Hussein" who's the son of a Kenyan muslim father. I've got no problems, but I can't speak for the timid average American voter.
I may be wrong.
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| 09.01.2008 05:15 |
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Rowan
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
Oh, by the way, these aren't the "elections". You're talking about selecting a candidate for one of the two major parties. It's called a "Primary".
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| 10.01.2008 22:37 |
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
are there any other parties or just republican daemons or democratic a little lesser daemons? 
i actually really dont know, and would be grateful if anybody could answer me.
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| 10.01.2008 22:51 |
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Rowan
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
Like in the majority of Western democracies, America consists of 2 major parties.
There are some Senators in the State Congress from the Constitution Party (pro preservation of original Constitution, aims to re-enforce the Judao-Christian system of laws and values upon which European states and their colonies were founded upon).
The largest 3rd party in America based on nationwide membership is the Libertarian Party. Pro free-market, pro-civil liberties, anti-war, pro strong defense etc
Wiki's got a nice list of current and past 3rd parties, the article can be displayed in German too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_(United_States)#Moderate
However, a far more detailed list can be found in English only here: http://politics1.com/parties.htm
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party....only in American
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| 11.01.2008 10:04 |
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
hmm... is it possible to elect a third party member for presidential elections too or just as a senator? because at each presidential election, we in europe, just see one republican and one democratic member in tv.
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| 11.01.2008 13:32 |
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
I'm not American, but I would love to see Obama win the nomination and ultimately the election. He's much less divisive than Hillary, and it really does seem he has the competence to bring about some actual change, which the US so desperately needs. And boy, have you heard him speak, WOW! Amazing! As a Communist though, it would be nice for the USCP to get some recognition, or at least the Socialist Party. Mike Gravel, Denis Kucinich and John Edwards are some Democrats I like in addition to Obama.
D., it's just there FPP electoral system that makes it so hard for anyone but Candidates from the two major parties to get in. It's the same in any other country that uses an FPP system.
And Rowan, I was sure that in the senate at the moment they were all Dems and GOPs except for Sanders and Leiberman who are Democrat siding independants (with Leiberman going with the Republicans every once and a while).
 
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| 12.01.2008 04:55 |
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Rowan
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
I would agree with you. However, in State Congresses, there are several third parties.
In fact, I believe the Governor of.... Massachusetts I think, is from the obscure Progressive Party.
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| 12.01.2008 06:35 |
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
The governor of Massachusettes is Deval Patrick. Governor Patrick is a liberal Democrat who succeeded former Republican Governor Mitt Romney who is currently seeking the Republican Presidential nomination. It is worth noting that Deval Patrick is the only black man currently holding the position of governor in the nation.
As for third parties and current office holders from third parties........it is rare and there are in fact no sitting US Senators who are not either Republicans or Democrats. The closest we have Joe Lieberman. Joe Lieberman was Al Gore's Vice Presidential runningmate in 2000. As a three term Senator in 2006 he for ran for reelection as an Independent in because the extreme liberal wing of the Democrat party in his home state of Connecticut defeated him with a fringe candidate in a primary race for the democrat nomination to the Senate. Lieberman subsequently ran in the general election as an Independent and won. However, for organizational purposes in the US Senate, Lieberman is organized under the Democrat party, and works with the Democrat leadership so in the end he is still a Democrat.
All elected officials in either the House of Representatives or the US Senate are Democrats or Republicans. The only one who is not is Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont who is a registered Socialist yet he too is organized under the leadership of the Democrat party.
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| 13.01.2008 01:56 |
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Rowan
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RE: Obama versus Clinton
That sounds about right. I do know that in some state there's a PP Governor, I'm not sure which one though.
The national Congress, as I keep stressing, has no third party candidates but the Socialist who you pointed out.
I know the Constitution Party has House rep in some Southern state's House of Reps. I'd be willing to assume that the CP may have another incumbent rep or senator in one of the state's legislatures, I'd also be surprised I didn't find any incumbent independents across the Congresses of the states.
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| 13.01.2008 09:35 |
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