My Web search confirms much of which Abt said. But Bertrams is right also again - I am still irresolute
Thus "no idea"

Greetings


PS.
@Malone: sorry - I didn't know at all that I could do this next time I will try

@BE: Before the Russians should have just as much respect/fear as before the Americans ...

Up to now from Hamburg one hears also only saber-rattling ähm… cutlery-clanging...

This post was last modified: 26.02.2008 08:28 by gottvater.

I don't think that the Kosovans will go back to Serbia and the only peaceful way is to accept Kosovo as an own country. But I think best would be to wait a little...

The problem is not only that in Serbia/Kosovo. A country like Spain can't hardly accept Kosovo by having similar problems with the Basque region. Same problem with Russia/Chechenia, Canada/Québec, China/Taiwan... why we don't interfere in that conflicts? Because this countrys are to strong or geographically too near? Why we now accept Kosovo? Because Serbia's Army is too weak after the war and we don't have to be afraid?

In den Nachrichten habe ich nichts übe den russischen Bären gehört, aber es passt. Das "brute force" und "armed forces" bezog sich übrigens nicht auf Kosovo, sondern künftige Konflikte mit anderen Staaten. Es ist eine Vorhaltung darüber, dass die NATO die Kosovo-Unabhängigkeit sozusagen schützt, natürlich die UNO, aber hauptsächlich die NATO.

Why don't we interfere in China / Thaiwan? Because in fact these are two countries. Russia ist - after all - still a super power, Canada and Quebec will find a solution in due course, wheter it will be secession or not, and spain? - Well Spain is a Problem, But Spain is in NATO and EU, and they begin to see to the problem in general. And the majority of the Basque people do not want to secede from Spain I believe.

Es ging gegen NATO. Das NATO ohne UN-Mandat sich zu viel herausnimmt!
Was ja nicht mal gelogen ist. Wenn ich 1999 an NATO's Serbien-Bombardement denke, mit einer fast schon "us-neocon'schen Wahrheitshinbiegung"

Exactly and thank you Schwarzer Abt for making that point. The acceptance of Kosovo as an independent state is being driven by the US, not Europe. Military action in the 90's was also driven by Clinton's poor US foreign policy (Democrats are just as bad with foreign policy as Republicans). I'll get to why in a moment.

The conflict in the Balkans is derived from Turkish attacks and domination for centuries. The Turks in the 1800's ethnically cleansed (killed) over a quarter million Christian Serbs in Kosovo and replaced them with Muslim Albanians who became the dominant ethnicity and religion. This is compounded by the fact that Kosovo is the cultural and religious heart of Serbia. Imagine someone came and suddenly gave away your country's historical center! That is what the Serbs are resisting, and I don’t blame them, although they unfortunately chose to use force instead of diplomacy in the 90's which is unacceptable in modern times.

Now to answer why the US is supporting independence for Kosovo:

Simply, to improve relations with Turkey so the US can build much larger military bases there. Long term stability in Kosovo is not important; building bigger military bases in a strategic location in the world is. That is the same reason why the US is supporting Turkey joining the EU, which is crazy , but that’s another discussion.

They are not. Most countries didn't recognize Taiwan.

Donovius: Exactly! Also after world war many people from Albania came in to Kosovo and they were allowed to live there from Yugoslavia. What if hundred thousand French people would come into Germany (i.e. the Saarland) and hundred years later they would proclaim an own country Saarland?

I wrote: "in fact" and meant that thaiwan is not recognized, but governs in fact itself.

I don't blame the Serbs for not wanting to work diplomatically any longer (although they should NOT resort to violence ). After the US bombing of Serbia in the 90's and the removal of Milosevic, the country became more democratic and is still moving in that direction to obtain EU membership.

Now how are they rewarded for their democratic move? The US gives away their most cherished province. Not to mention the Serbs were on the side of the Allies in WWII while the Albanians in Kosovo joined with Italy in supporting the Axis. I've read many stories of Serbs in WWII rescuing downed US and British air crews from capture and execution by Albanians. How quickly the US forgets its friends.

Please read this article about the problems in Kosovo I recently found:

http://www.weltwoche.ch/artikel/?AssetID...egoryID=66

Frankly the article is only written in german.

eigentlich ist mir das egal, aber wenn der kosovo unabhängig wird und es toleriert wird, dann soll auch der nordkosovo sich abspalten dürfen. gleiches recht für alle.

This post was last modified: 01.03.2008 21:31 by chikairi.